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Q&As: General

What happens at the end of the contracts between Viapath and the Trusts?

The current PSAs between Viapath and GSTT and KCH are coterminous in 2020 at which point the Trusts will retender them.

What if we do nothing?

Doing nothing is not an option. We would fail to unify the organisation, Viapath quickly would become financially unviable and current RoE employees’ membership of the NHS Pension Scheme would end in April 2017.

Is this a ploy to speed up integration and rationalisation?

No. The changes are support the Viapath strategy to integrate and modernise the service as One Organisation.

Once I've transferred can I be forced to work at another site?

No. As now, inter-site transfer would only be possible following consultation.

Will there be an inbox on the Viapath website for staff to post questions or concerns?

Yes. Our communications strategy and plans will address this and the wider approach to staff communications.

What alternative solutions have been considered and rejected?

Given the ambition to unify the organisation, the requirement for currently seconded (RoE) staff to transfer in order to retain their membership of the NHS Pension Scheme and the need to re-structure the business in the light of the change in our VAT status, the proposed solution is the only viable option and has been recommended by the Viapath Board.

Will this make inter-site transfers easier?

Yes, where this would facilitate service modernisation and improvement and career development.

Will sufficient resources be made available to managers to carry out the consultation and transfer process properly?

Yes. This is a key project and resources are being allocated as appropriate by all stakeholders.

How will we ensure we have sufficient support from Trust HR?

This is a joint project and we are in detailed discussion with Trust HR colleagues with regard to ensuring the necessary resourcing.

What contingency plans exist around the risk of a mass staff exodus?

The need to manage the restructure sensitively and successfully is well understood by all stakeholders and therefore it is not anticipated that there will be staff losses as a result.

What is the Staff Side view of the proposed TUPE transfer?

Staff Side engagement initially is a matter for the Trusts and proper consultation will take place supported by Viapath.

We need a communication plan for those not affected to keep their interest.

An internal communications strategy and detailed plans are in development and will serve to inform all parties.

Are the medical staff affected?

No. The Doctors are neither employed by or seconded to Viapath and so are not affected by the restructure.

What will happen to the money that’s saved?

No money will be saved but an excessive tax burden will be minimised by virtue of the restructure.

Is this ‘tax avoidance’?

No. HMRC have provided clearance that they are happy with our proposed change. The new structure will comply with both the letter and the spirit of the law. It is the legal right of Viapath to set itself up in a tax efficient fashion so as to continue the high quality work we do for the NHS, at the lowest possible cost. Under the new structure we will be paying more tax to HMRC than before.

Can we trust that Viapath will keep their promises?

The ambition of the One Organisation initiative and the successful realisation of our future plans are entirely dependent upon Viapath having a well-motivated workforce.Reneging on promises would be counter to this. In any event, GSTT and KCH are majority shareholders in Viapath and they have committed to maintain the quality of staff and services.

How would my working relationship with the clinicians and the Trust change?

The working relationships with clinical colleagues and our engagement with the Trusts will be unaffected by the restructure.

Will there be any changes to professional indemnity provisions?

No. The restructure and transfer have no impact on indemnities.

I joined the NHS and want to remain with the NHS, why can’t I?

We appreciate for some individuals there is a strong bond and a sense of pride that comes with being an NHS employee. We totally respect that depth of feeling and recognise that if you are a RoE employee then the prospect of a TUPE transfer to Viapath may be a sensitive subject. Discussions about a potential TUPE transfer are not something the employing Trusts have entered into lightly, but it is the solution that the Viapath Board collectively agrees is in the best interests of protecting both the service we provide and the continued membership of the NHS pension scheme for the Trust’s RoE employees. Remaining with the current RoE model would mean that, over the longer term, you would be unable to maintain access to the NHS pension scheme.

Viapath are committed to ensuring that, in the event of a TUPE transfer taking place that we continue to work together to create an organisation which also retains the best of the NHS culture and values within it.

Would Viapath start to have recognition of a Union?

Viapath will discuss this with Staff Side during consultation.

If the joint venture (JV) goes ahead, would we be able to continue to use nhs.net?

Yes employees would be able to continue using their nhs.net emails.

Will I have to lose my NHS.net. email account – it is very useful, as it is accessible off site?

Yes employees would be able to continue using their nhs.net emails.

Would staff lose the Key Worker status and so will this jeopardise their chances of owning a house?

Our legal team are currently looking into this and we will be able to update you once they provide us with their conclusions.

Will my pay date change?

Our payroll team are investigating the feasibility of bringing Viapath’s pay date in line with the NHS (24th of the month). We will update you on this as soon as possible.

Who will be our Occupational Health (OH) department/provider?

Your OH provider will not change. Viapath have a contract with the current provider and this contract will not be affected by the transfer. As is normal practice we will review this arrangement at the contract renewal date.

Concerns around changing policies and procedure of the Trust which are more flexible to ones that are less flexible.

This question need to be answered in two parts as it is important to make the distinction between 1. Contractual terms and conditions (T&Cs), and 2. Non Contractual T&Cs, policies, procedures and benefits i.e. non contractual elements.

  1. TUPE legislation states that all contractual T&Cs must remain as is prior to a transfer.  T&Cs governed by Agenda for Change (AfC) as at the time of transfer are contractual (e.g. maternity/adoption, holiday, sickness entitlement etc) and as such these would not change. 
  2. Viapath is working with the Trusts to agree which non contractual elements (e.g. car parking spaces, nursery care etc) will transfer. These elements will be identified and confirmed during the consultation process.
Concerns around the fact that Viapath will now have the opportunity they always wanted to change terms and condition under the guise of ‘good for the business’.

Viapath continues to need to attract and retain the best scientists and support staff to deliver its strategic aim to be the leading pathology services provider in the UK and it would not make sense to make changes that would be detrimental to our employees.

Additionally, the restructure will be covered by the Transfer of Undertakings (Protection of Employment Regulations (2006) (“TUPE”) and as a result all existing contractual employment terms & conditions will be maintained. Nevertheless all organisations introduce change from time to time in the interests of improving the service / business and while there are no plans to make any changes, anything we did propose would be subject to formal consultation with you.

I have been wondering if staff will still be able to access NHS training courses if the planned TUPE transfer goes ahead for existing NHS staff.

Whilst staff cannot continue to apply  to the Trusts for funding, they will receive financial support from Viapath for continued personal development. Viapath is investing significantly in staff learning & development through, for example the recent Scientific L&D Funding initiative and will continue to invest in the professional development of its staff going forward.

More specifically-will staff who have transferred to Viapath still be able to partake in the NHS Leadership Academy courses? My understanding is these courses are funded by the LETB, which leads me to think that they will not fund individuals who are not?

Our learning and development team are investigating this and we will update you on this as soon as possible.

I assume conferences run by NHS England will still be accessible post TUPE?

Our learning and development team are investigating this and we will update you on this as soon as possible.

The Trust on-call policy and Viapath on-call policy differ greatly and I would like to know if the Trust policy will be honoured under TUPE.

Yes. The Trust locally agreed On-Call Policy will apply following TUPE.

Since the Trust will no longer be the employer, will they continue to provide dummy ESR numbers and access to their mandatory training?

The Trust currently provide the Viapath workforce with statutory and mandatory training stipulated by them as the host Trust, they issue us with dummy ESR number to track and give us access to the training and recording thereof. We have been in discussion with the Trust about in-sourcing this training, this will only be possible if we make alternative arrangement to meet the statutory requirements and report back to the Trust as appropriate. We will update you as soon as possible regarding any progress.

Will this make it easier for Viapath to determine and source its own mandatory training requirements?

This is done in agreement with the host sites, in this case the Trusts, therefore we will continue to work with the host Trusts to determine mandatory training requirements.

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Last updated: 15/07/2014

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